Showing posts with label The Lake Placid. Show all posts
Showing posts with label The Lake Placid. Show all posts

Saturday, August 18, 2018

Closer Look: Video Handicapping The Lake Placid G2 at Saratoga


Welcome to the Turk and the Little Turk.

I slept on the 8-9-10 pick 3 at Saratoga and thought I'd spend some time this morning building out my final thoughts and creating bet strategy.

The Turk isn't a high volume gambler.  There was a time in my life when I had lots of time to handicap, build bets and just watch the results.  I did that for years while I worked a job that had me sitting in a room watching computers for 12 hours at a time.  I did my job, did it well, but always had the race form nearby for a few minutes of handicapping.  The day would begin with reading the results in the sports page, an era when you could easily find limited results on the full card in each daily paper.  Over the years, I've become a selective player, mostly vertical betting of stakes races.  I gamble judiciously.  I realize when I gamble my edge goes away when the public has more information or is just as knowledgeable about the runners as I am.  Chalks are chalkier and wise guy horses mostly represent a way to look smart on Twitter before the race is actually run. How to find an edge in stakes?  Video and Trip Handicapping has become a bigger tool for me over the years.  I can glean information from the PPs but sometimes just slowing down to watch a two minute race in snapshots at points of call can really draw a picture.

Let's take a closer look at the Grade 2 Lake Placid  1 1/8 Miles on SOFT Mellon Turf.


G1 Belmont Oaks Invitational: 1 1/4 Miles Firm BEL turf:

Let's pay attention to:


  • Thewayiam (Fr):  Light Blue/Pink Diamond #8 Pink Cloth with Black number

  • Capla Temptress (Ire):  Forest green, Crimson Triangular panel: #4 Yellow (Gold) cloth with black numbers.

  • Significant Form: Dark Green, Light Green Sash, White: #1 Red with White Number






Top of Stretch- Belmont Oaks Invitational
















Athena makes her move













Deep Stretch-no excuses #8/#1
















Tight Quarters after Athena on the wire















Hard to make excuses for Significant Form in particular.  While there may have been a bit of a bump, I. Ortiz was uncovered and lacked response.  Her Timeform late pace value of 79 seems valid here.  The cutback of 1/8 of a mile and class drop can't hurt.

I like how Thewayiam (Fr) competed for positioning.  9 of 11 in the money.  I'm considering she might like the turf softer than others here.

Mott's Capla Temptress (Ire) looked the part of a 59 Early/102 late pace form.  I really liked her late and with a ML of 6-1 I think she's a great Place candidate in the Exacta.



G3 Lake George: 1 1/16 on SAR outer (Mellon) Turf


  • Daddy is a Legend: Florescent orange/Chartreuse Sash, Hot; #3 Horse Blue with White Number
  • Andina Del Sur: Orange, Green Sleeves with Two White Hoops; #5 Green with White Number























One picture, whole story.  Andina Del Sur tracked along at at the top of the stretch found herself needing to split horses.  The gap seemed there, she did not and she stayed on flat in the pack.  Daddy is a Legend? With Franco up, the Red Sea parted, the rail was uncontested and she was gone with a pedestrian:29.25 final 5/16ths.



G3 Wonder Again Stakes: 1 1/8 Miles Bel Inner Turf

  • Andina Del Sur: Orange, Green Sleeves with Two White Hoops; #6 Black Cloth with Gold Number
  • Daddy is a Legend: Florescent orange/Chartreuse Sash, Hot; #8 Pink Cloth with Black number
  • Significant Form: Dark Green, Light Green Sash, White: #5 Green with White Number





1/2 Mile Pole















Wonder Again-Wire 3/5 sec gap

























Paceless really:  The winner was 3 1/2 lengths in front at 1/2 mile and the three we are paying attention to are stretched out in the next three spots over 7-8 lengths.  At the wire, same line, a bit more bunched, same order.


G2 Appalachian:  1 Mile over yielding turf at KEE


  • Rushing Fall Neon green, Purple Ball, Green 'E'; #2 White Cloth with Black Number.
  • Thewayiam (Fr) #9
  • Daddy is a Legend #1




Turn to 1 Mile Finish





























Daddy is a Legend cracks under the drive of Rushing Fall.  Thewayiam (Fr) really comes at Rushing Fall in last 1/16 of a mile.  Have we seen anything to believe that Daddy is a Legend will want more ground?  This was listed as yielding.  Thewayiam seemed to like the footing as did Rushing Fall.  Small sample size with three year olds.


Penn Oaks $200K; 1 Mile on Firm Turf




Thewayiam (Fr) making a big run again between 15/16ths and 1 mile.



What to make of this?




I think I'm favoring Thewayiam (Fr) catching Rushing Fall in the last hops.  Capla Temptress (Ire) is live at a big price and Significant Form is most likely a step better than Capla Temptress (Ire).  Daddy is a Legend seems like a minor prize at best. 

As predicted, the rains have taken the 10th race off the turf and the grass is listed as Soft.  No scratches yet in the 8th and the 9th.  Keep your eye on this NYRA link for up to date information. 


Have fun with it. 



Friday, August 17, 2018

The Nomination Is In: The Grade 2 Lake Placid and the Grade 1 Alabama at Saratoga


Spa Giveaway-Alabama Day 2008

Welcome friends to The Turk and the Little Turk Blog, now in our 9th year and 11th month of providing handicapping and bet construction to people who never asked for it.  It is, however free, and it as I might add, positive ROI over a long period of time.  

Why does the Turk blog?  I guess the easiest answer is he likes too.  Some people like crosswords, some watch Jeopardy, some online porn.  Me, I like my work very much and blogging is an extension of my work.  I analyze data and I develop good money strategy, which is exactly what I do for a living.  

I was out (albeit briefly) at Del Mar last week, and next Saturday I'll be in Saratoga for Travers Day. I haven't attend a Travers since 2007, when the Kentucky Derby winner Street Sense avoided the Spa Curse, and also the day Hard Spun became a Grade 1 winner in the King's Bishop.    I stopped going because I felt priced out.  I'm not super cost conscious, but Stub-Hubbed tickets in the clubhouse have gotten very pricey for the Travers and instead I started coming for either Alabama or Woodward Stakes day.  I purchased tickets in the hope of possibly seeing Justify, but I'm good with whomever shows up and quite frankly, I'm getting excited to see Wonder Gadot take on the colts.  I've enjoyed alot of Alabama Days and the hat pictured above was a bit of swag the Spa gave away in 2008.   I admit tho, I'm getting rain fatigue this meet and I'm dreading working hard on a multi race handicap only to see races pulled from turf or multiple scratches.  I'm going to hunker down and assume that the track is at least sloppy and sealed and the turf is soft.  The weather, is going to be wet.  You'll find the real Track Conditions and Scratches and Changes for NYRA/Saratoga here.  

My handicapping plan was to develop a Pick Three Strategy for Race 8-9-10, the G2 Lake Placid on Turf, The Alabama and a $25,000 1 Mile Turf Claimer that I fear will either be cancelled or shifted to the main track after I spend quality time on it.   Let's get after it!

Video Review for the G2 Lake Placid:  1 1/8 Miles on Mellon Turf.

G1 Belmont Oaks Invitational: 1 1/4 Miles Firm BEL turf 



G3 Lake George: 1 1/16 on SAR outer (Mellon) Turf



G3 Wonder Again Stakes: 1 1/8 Miles Bel inner Turf



G2 Appalachian:  1 Mile over yielding turf at KEE




Penn Oaks $200K; 1 Mile on Firm Turf




And the video review for The Alabama 1 1/4 Miles on Fast Dirt

G1 CCA Oaks 1 1/8 Miles on fast Dirt



Indiana Oaks G3: 1 1/16 Miles on Fast Dirt





Delaware Oaks G3:  1 1/16 Miles Fast Dirt



The Mother Goose G2: 1 1/16 Miles on fast BEL dirt.




What to make of this?




Instead of rambling about this one, I think I'm just going to let my base handicaps and fair lines speak for themselves.  These races were handicapped assuming soft turf and sloppy and sealed dirt. 

Midnight Bisou will most likely be singled on my Pick 3.  I'll be assembling value exactas on both races as I think there are some very good possibilities for both races. Hopefully the field sizes don't change.

I'll be back tomorrow with Race 10 once I get a feel for if the race will be run, by who and on what surface.

Turk out!